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But this did sound awfully like that spate of books where people had A Bright Idea to Do Something for A Year and got a book out of it, which was clearly the intention, and this struck my cynical ayfeist self as 'My Spiritual Pilgrimage to a Mystical Experience, Conversion, Faith, and Publishing Deal'.

Could I become a Christian in a year?

(How long did it take St Augustine? asking for a friend.)

For my perpetual Christian road-trip – beginning in the last months of 2022 and ending in early 2024 – I purchased a 21 year-old Toyota Corolla and stocked the glove box with second-hand CDs. I filled up my calendar with Christian retreats, church visits and stays in the houses of Christian strangers all across the highways and byways of the UK – Cornwall, Sussex, Kent, Hertfordshire, Birmingham, north Wales, Norfolk, Sheffield, Halifax, Durham, the Inner Hebrides – seeking out every kind of Christian, from Catholics to Orthodox Christians: Quakers, Pentecostals, Evangelicals, high to low Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, self-professed mystics, focusing on my generation specifically, those in their 20s and 30s, the youngest set of adults in Britain.

70s flashback!!! Only in those days it was people working their way through the various offerings of the 'Growth' aka 'Human Potential' Movement that was flourishing then and I'm pretty sure that people wrote up their memoirs of their odysseys through the various practices/groups/cults on offer.

I was also, in the light of this article today, intrigued that it was two bloke friends who set her on this path: I’m delighted to see gen Z men in the UK flocking back to church – I just hope it’s for the right reasons. So am I. I have a friend who has been involved in the much-delayed and still unsatisfactory response of the C of E to certain abuse cases and some of those seem to have been connected with cultish manifestations which were praised for bringing in that particular demographic.

(And having noted the other day that Witchfinder Hopkins was pretty much in that demographic of young men aged 18-24, I'd really like to know where these Gen Z converts are in relation to issues like ordination of women, LGCBTQ+ inclusivity, etc etc.)

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This is very very creepy and spooky and proves that just being an atheist doesn't mean you can't also be a horrendous cultist: America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world. (And homeschooling them.)

So much wrong there one hardly knows where to begin, but these people are not heating their house - with small children in it, though their child-rearing practices are pretty horrendous, we find - and allegedly 'give everything they can spare to charity (their charities)' - heating the house in winter is apparently 'pointless indulgence'.

Readers of Victorian novels will already be ticking boxes 'Reverend Brocklehurst' and 'Mrs Jellaby', no?

I really, really wanted to know exactly WHAT their charities were, because they are probably some woowoo Effective Altruism futuristic crap that does no good to anybody. Wot, me, cynical?

Also, as a historian of eugenics, I so do not give them a get-out on what they're doing not really being eugenics, because it was not 'state-sponsored selective breeding to influence the dominance of certain genes', it was totally this mindset, except, actually, I am now feeling positively benign towards all those early C20th proponents who thought maybe they themselves shouldn't be contributing to the gene-pool because of their myopia or some minor problem somewhere in the family tree.

I am also thinking, why not put the effort and dosh into improving the lot of the struggling?

Do we want the 'civilisation' that these people are saving....

And talking of cults and who gets to define 'civilisation': was I the last boy to be flogged at Eton? (in 1984, there records are not entirely clear on the subject....)

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Queerness and Atheism in Post-War [Northern] Ireland: the case of William McIlroy, who, both atheist and gay from a fundamentalist Protestant working-class background, who in fact left at the age of 17:

He refused to countenance ever returning to visit, even in advanced old age, implying that if he had done so, he might have become the target of a violent attack. It is difficult to say whether this reflected reality or a deeply held paranoia which itself spoke of distress. There seems a high likelihood that he had been verbally and or physically threatened prior to leaving Northern Ireland.

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At a very different social level: the gay scandal, hidden for 120 years, that embroiled the noted British MP, connoisseur and philanthropist Cyril Flower, Lord Battersea, in 1902.

(NB I'm not sure who, these days, considers the Edwardian era - war in South Africa! fears of national degeneration! the Irish Question! the rising working classes! the SUFFRAGETTES!!! also a number of vice scandals of a more as it were conventional nature, to have been a placid time, wot, but this is pretty much par for the course when somebody 'stumbles across a story' without much contextual background.)

I do wonder about the 'prominent gay historian' who apparently cautioned him about where not to go in his analysis, and also the characterisation of The State of Sexual History. Um: I guess my own reading in the field began with Pearsall too, plus Steven Marcus's The Other Victorians, but hello, that was over 50 years ago and there's been a Lot of Historiography since then..

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It all comes back to ‘darling Peter’: setting Britten and Pears’s love letters to music:

Benjamin Britten’s letters to his life partner Peter Pears are intimate, honest and revealing – revealing of lives entwined at a time when their love was illegal. Could I, a 21st-century Northern Irish gay man, relate?
Could you, the researcher, actually mention the Archive at the Red House where you would have consulted these? (or had them supplied through the kind offices of the Archivist). Indignant on behalf of former colleague who now works there.

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Roz Kaveney reviews Samuel Delany's essays:

Being Black and gay, he has written fascinatingly about both identities, as well as their intersection, and in particular about his responsibilities as the first gay Black man to achieve distinction in a field that is not always as progressive as it likes to think. In these two slightly random collections of interviews, essays, speeches and social media posts, he regularly and kaleidoscopically flits between all of these aspects of his profession and personality.
I see in the biographical footnote there is a suggestion that we may finally be seeing the ultimate volume in Rhapsody of Blood later this year - yearns.

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A brief history of the public toilet as a political battleground. Logic never to to the forefront - I remember a conference paper about a big moral panic about cottaging in Christchurch NZ in the 60s (I think) which led to the local council closing down all public loos in the affected area, including the women's.

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It seems, let us say, a little quaint and anachronistic to rule that an MP may not accuse another MP directly of lying: Dawn Butler ejected from Commons for saying Johnson has lied repeatedly. Labour MP accused the prime minister of misleading the Commons and the country over coronavirus.

This dates from the epoch, surely, when 'honourable member' was not just a form of words? (though thinking back over one's recollection of O-level political history, perhaps not...) But a period, anyway, when 'honour' meant something and could be impugned.

As for 'It's In The Roolz!!!', an argument I have seen some people making: Come On Down, Charles Bradlaugh, militant atheist, who upon election to Parliament refused to take the requisite religious Oath of Allegiance and wished to affirm instead (concessions having already been made for Quakers and Jews). His principled and contentious stand on this led to him being prevented from taking his seat as MP for Northampton from 1880 to 1886 and even being imprisoned. Eventually a law was passed granting the right to affirm.

As for unParliamentary behaviour, even if we leave out Cromwell marching into the Chamber and forcibly dissolving the Rump Parliment in 1653: 'Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!':

In 1902 the Speaker was given power to suspend or adjourn proceedings in the case of 'grave disorder' (I discovered this by going to myself, 'wasn't there some incident with Hesletine and the mace?'): Incidents of Grave Disorder in the House of Commons, 1905-2017

While some of these pertained to external events and intrusions (19 May 2004 'Tony Blair was hit by some purple flour-filled condoms thrown from the gallery by a member of the group Fathers 4 Justice'), they included, 4 Mar 1975 'Angry confrontation continued and Nigel Lawson was seen to hit junior Minister Clinton Davis with his House of Commons Order Paper' and 27 May 1976 'Opposition Industry Secretary Michael Heseltine removed the House of Commons mace from its place on the table and advanced towards the Government front bench'.

This very interesting article by Collier and Raney, Understanding Sexism and Sexual Harassment in Politics: A Comparison of Westminster Parliaments in Australia, the United Kingdom, and Canada indicates the vast array of discriminatory and sexist behaviour that is just part of the way Parliament does business at Westminster and in the Westminster boys-school/mens'-club tradition:

Adversarial norms and parliamentary privilege are both on display during the formal proceedings of the House, and especially during Prime Minister’s Questions (PMQs). PMQs often feature masculine styles of communication, including shouting, braying, put-downs, jibes, heckles, and taunts on both sides of the House. In addition, more overt sexist statements have also been made during PMQs. In 2011, David Cameron told the Labour shadow chief secretary Angela Eagle to “calm down, dear”, which was followed by laughter and further heckling from the government benches. In 2013, Secretary of State William Hague could be seen calling MP Cathy Jamieson a “stupid woman” twice during PMQs (Stevenson 2013). The need for parliamentarians to score political points against their rivals, combined with an informal acceptance of sexist language and behavior in the House, disproportionately disadvantages women. For Lovenduski, these highly ritualized displays of “public masculinity” send “a strong symbolic message to women that politicians are men who have repertoires of behavior that are not available to women (and some men)” (Lovenduski 2014b, 135). Some female MPs have recently stated that they find PMQs so adversarial and off-putting that they no longer attend (Mason and Edgington 2014). We see the three unwritten norms of myth of neutrality, adversarial politics, and parliamentary privilege working together to reinforce an accepted culture of behavior.

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Oh, David Mitchell, I normally like and approve of your columns, but this one?

Our forebears’ unquestioning belief in a higher power gave them a confidence that it’s hard not to envy.

Which made me think of pretty much all societies, 'throughout history', where just because there was a belief in a higher power didn't mean that there wasn't massive conflict over: who was the real higher power and how best to worship that higher power. And even when there was a generally accepted overall belief system, there are differences within between schools of thought and practice (cf persecution of Christians or Muslims who are not of the predominant category within a particular nation). Heretics get persecuted at least as much as infidels.

And you may like to think

I know in my heart that had I been brought up in such a setting – say, in Anglican Victorian England – I wouldn’t have quibbled with those answers and would’ve been comforted by them.

That would Anglican Victorian England which a) pretty much invented the concept of honest doubt and b) within the C of E, massive conflicts between High and Low Church, no? Not so cosy.

Paging Mr Blake and the Ever-Lasting Gospel. Written at the same time that a large number of actual clergymen had gone into that line of work because they were the third son and it was a living, and why would anyone trouble themselves over the 39 Articles? and it gave them plenty of time off for hunting.

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I daresay I have perorated before about people - especially blokes - who become parents and It Transforms Their Life, not in the sense of before then they had never thought about changing nappies or hallucinating from sleep deprivation, no, it is a Deep Existential Thing of feeling a connection in a previously rootless existence.

Which is just one of the thoughts I have about this article*: I’m an atheist who goes to church – here’s why you should too.

(Because, of course, one size of Spiritual Awakening fits all. Also, I cannot help thinking about the psychoanalyst in Cold Comfort Farm who redirects Judith Starkadder's brooding Jocastan obsession onto old churches...)

Bring my codfish of burning gold, and a chariot of fire with Boudiccan swords on its wheels:

[S]omething about having a son – an impetus to strive for deeper meaning, a longing for some continuity with the past – made me think harder about spirituality.

And do we have the feeling that he's never previously been into a church even to look at the art/architecture/misericord carvings/stained glass? Or a wedding or a funeral?

And where is the infant's mother and what does she think about it all? And would he feel that same if the child was a daughter?

*This appeared some weeks ago: I was collecting bits and bobs for future ranting while we were in Krakow and I didn't have time or energy to be discursive.

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As previously mentioned, I am proposing attending a scholarly conference at the University of Notre Dame in June, and combining this with at least a brief visit to the Kinsey Institute.

I.e. Indiana.

Okay, college towns, and the Kinsey has already made a statement.

Still, we feel it might be unduly provocative to have a t-shirt made up saying something like 'Atheist Kinsey 1.5' (the latter might be a bit subtle?) or 'Why do you presume I'm straight?' -

(Though honestly, this whole 'refusal to serve LGBTQ people because RELLYJUN' - how can they tell?) -

- or large chunks of Blake's 'The Everlasting Gospel' (don't know about them, but it confuses the hell out of me).

Maybe just flaunt my Darwin bicentenary shoulder bag?

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I was somewhat niggled, possibly even peeved, when I came across this in the Media bit of today's Guardian:

“The only ground rule I am going to set is you can’t mess around with Thought for the Day,” he says. “People need to be clear you can’t use the guest editorship as a lever to do a secular Thought for the Day or a backdoor way to open up a Thought for the Day debate.”

The BBC has reviewed the mini-sermon at various times in its history, including five years ago when the BBC Trust rejected calls to feature non-religious speakers. Angus, who describes himself as a “big fan”, says: “One of the great things about living in Britain is that we are a pluralist society that is immensely tolerant of a wide range of different religions. I think Thought for the Day is one of the hidden pillars that absolutely supports that architecture.”

But not, apparently tolerant of non-belief.

Okay, can quite see that in practice Atheist Thought for the Day would probably lean heavily on high-profile Big Name (Dead White Male, and I do not by that mean John Stuart Mill, who would be quite acceptable) Unbelievers, rather than selected readings from, e.g. George Eliot.

And on the subject of Ms Evans, somebody was asking on Twitter whether somebody else thought she would have traded any of her capacities and achievements to be beautiful, on account of she certainly fell in love with various people who did not, on the whole, reciprocate (actually, not true, in some cases there was reciprocation but existing others objected).

Which led me to think generally as to whether women with gifts of the mind and spirit but without the more obvious forms of physical allure would have made that bargain.

Or whether, in fact, they wanted to be loved for what they were (posthumous codslap to Thackeray for his condescending comment that all C Bronte wanted was A Husband To Love, she who had rejected more than one proposal).

And whether, indeed, they would have considered beauty an uncomplicated good in itself, especially given that Eliot, Bronte, Gaskell, etc, all pointed out that issues of wealth, class, status, and so on were involved in the thwarting of romantic hopes at least as much as, indeed more, than looks, and that the latter might well lead to trouble, in the form of attracting the attention of the mill-owner's son or one's cousin's fiancee, or the desire to own a beautiful and envied by others object.

Did they not rather think rather along EIR's lines about having the qualities and abilities to get by even if turned out of the realm in a shift?

Okay, we recall, with a wince, Anita Brookner complaining that being a professor at the Courtauld and a Booker-awarded novelist was as nothing without Luhrv, but we do wonder whether that can be generalised from, and also, to what extent women writers and so on over the years who expressed such opinions were in fact performing acceptable femininity for strategic reasons.

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I am actually surprised you even got one response (off-list) to your question as to whether [Certain Eminent Victorian whose painful journey to non-belief is well-documented] was an atheist.

I am sure that most list members, like me, had a mental 'Do My Homework For Me' light flashing over this one, and resisted the temptation to post 'JFGI'.

Maybe there was something more subtle and nuanced going on, but as the question was posed: no.

Possibly this person is a little confused by terminology and the meaning of 'free-thinker' in context?

Or maybe they're supposing that this famously private person would or should have been a member of one or other of the various organised freethought bodies emerging at the time.

Or that someone who believed in compassion and tolerance would have been, if an atheist, militant about it in the Dawkins mode.

It's not even as though, as with Darwin, there is a longstanding factoid concerning deathbed conversion.

I think it's poor ton of anyone to guilt-trip busy scholars by posting that only one person answered your question, implying what a lot of meanies they are.

Go away and do the reading.

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Via a link to an article somebody else posted about CS Lewis's radio broadcasts:
There weren't any atheists in England in 1940.

The National Secular Society, f. 1866

The Freethinker, the voice of atheism since 1881

The British Humanist Association, f. 1896

These are all still going, and I really don't think that There Were No Atheists During The Blitz anymore than I believe that there are none in foxholes.

I'll be over here, singing in the Choir Invisible with John Stuart Mill, George Eliot, Charles Bradlaugh (refused to take a religious oath on entering Parliament in 1880), etc.

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A certain noted atheist (whom I will not name, since it's not about him and I'm not sure how reliable the attribution is anyway), is alleged to have recently stated that 'teaching children about hell was worse than sexually abusing them'.

I really do not get the mindset that thinks you can rank abusive things done to children (or indeed, any bad things) in this way, rather than saying 'These are both/all awful, but for [whatever personally-motivated reason] and because nobody can fight all the battles all the time, I am putting my own energies into X struggle', instead of saying 'Why are you bothering about Y when X exists?'.

How is that not reasonable? (I am, for the sake of argument, assuming that the person making these sorts of claims is actually Doing Something about what they consider The Worst Evil, rather than invoking it for rhetorical purposes, which may be paying them a compliment they do not deserve.)

I also have a feeling that this kind of hierarchisation of bad things leads to people dismissing attempts to do anything about things they do not put at or near the top of the list, as distractions or even counter-productive. (E.g. this would be Stella Browne's problem, or one of them, with the Communist Party - they were all about 'birth control is a distraction and about patching up the evils of capitalist society, come the revolution it won't even be needed'.)

In fact things are far more connected - evils are not discrete entities but positions on various spectra. Somebody used the term 'rhizomatic' at a conference I was at recently and I think this is a far more useful model for thinking about things. Intervening at some level which may not be the Most Bad Thing may nonetheless have repercussions throughout the system of which it is part.

(And I can see how these thinks relate to my Infinitely Deferred Future Project...)

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I was just going WTF over Mariella's problem yesterday:

I'm a 27-year-old straight, sociable and educated male. I'm successful in my career and I'm very optimistic about my professional future. I've never had a girlfriend, never looked for one until now; I'm a virgin. I'm not confused about my sexuality and I'm an atheist so my virginity is not related to religious beliefs. I just believe sex is a sacred thing and should only be had with the person you marry. I have similar expectations of my would-be partner.

Is it just me, or would the 'never having Done the Deed' loom less large for potential partners than 'sweet 16 and never been kissed 27 and never had a girlfriend'. But knows he's straight. And is sociable.

MF certainly has this pretty bang to rights:

I'd argue that it's not your copulating skills you need to be working on but your ability to achieve such interaction with another human being. Instead of elevating physical consummation to unrealistic heights how about you lower your sights to securing a couple of dates? That way you can put your energy into the constructive pursuit of a real-life partner instead of some vestal virgin of your fantasies. No one's knocking your principles, but sitting around debating them alone instead of interacting with potential partners seems an unlikely way to make progress.

I do wonder a bit about the back-story, like maybe he was a monk for several years and then Got Atheism...

I'm also intrigued, to put it mildly, that he's never had a girlfriend and yet he is not angsting about this or his ability to get one - it's positioned as a choice rather than anything else - but seems to think that his problem is about finding a laydee who is not shopworn.

Or one, who, having binarahndabit, will not pity his virginal state.

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It's an 'Untold Story' published by a press which seems only to have produced other works by the same person (+ one on a topic related to one of his interests by someone who is presumably a mate).

No, I don't know why anyone would be sending me a flyer for their self-published work claiming that Darwin did indeed convert on his deathbed and Lady Hope (the original person to assert this) a much-maligned figure who was 'hounded out of the country by the Darwin family'* and their supporters.. I think it's possibly to do with my association with A Certain Learned Society.

What is perhaps interesting (or not) is that the author/publisher claims to be a 'noted academic' who has done serious biomedical research and also 'made important contributions to the history of science'. At least, according to the blurb on the flyer.

I do not think I feel like ponying up £12.99 (even post free) for this 'outstanding piece of scholarly historical detective work', based on 25 years investigating the incident leading to the uncovering of 'crucial evidence'. Maybe the library at work will get a copy, or even be sent a freebie.

Doubtless the malign hand of the Darwin dynasty is the reason that this is not being published by some serious publisher and is being self-published by someone who, ah bless his wee cotton socks, doesn't even have a website.

*One's impression of the Darwin family from Gwen Raverat's Period Piece is not exactly one that suggests hounding as opposed to going 'shoo' in feeble tones.

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Or, why I would like an atheist equivalent to Blake's Everlasting Gospel.

Alain de Botton reveals plans for 'temple to atheism' in heart of London: Writer wants to build tower to celebrate life on earth as an antidote to Richard Dawkins' 'destructive' approach to atheism.

He appears to be suffering

a) from Cathedral Envy, a little-known syndrome: 'De Botton said he wants to borrow the idea of awe-inspiring buildings that give people a better sense of perspective on life'. Me personally myself I can think of i) awe-inspiring buildings and other created environments that have no religious connotations ii) natural beauty, the starry heavens, etc that might do that without having to create a Temple of Reason (that worked so well last time - oh, wait...)

And in London we already have a building historically dedicated to secularism and freethought: Conway Hall. Okay, it is rather more modest than de Botton's proposed erection, but has perhaps done rather more for

The study and dissemination of ethical principles based on humanism and freethought, the cultivation of a rational and humane way of life, and the advancement of research and education in all relevant fields.

b) Dawkins Envy:

The philosopher and writer Alain de Botton is proposing to build a 46-metre (151ft) tower to celebrate a "new atheism" as an antidote to what he describes as Professor Richard Dawkins's "aggressive" and "destructive" approach to non-belief.
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Because of Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens atheism has become known as a destructive force. But there are lots of people who don't believe but aren't aggressive towards religions."

And this, of course, has nothing whatsoever to do with Dawkins and Hitchens being more likely to be named in a word-association test to 'atheism' than Alain de Botton. I also feel that it ill becomes atheists to be generating what appears to be a mindset that there is the True Way, no heretics or schismatics allowed. Disharmony in The Choir Invisible.

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What is this that this is about church for non-believers?

I don't know whether Terry Eagleton, taking a tankload of codfish to Alain de Botton's new book, Religion for Atheists, makes a just assessment of the work and its arguments:

The book assumes that religious beliefs are a lot of nonsense, but that they remain indispensible to civilised existence.... De Botton claims that one can be an atheist while still finding religion "sporadically useful, interesting and consoling", which makes it sound rather like knocking up a bookcase when you are feeling a bit low....

De Botton does not want people literally to believe, but he remains a latter-day Matthew Arnold, as his high Victorian language makes plain. Religion "teaches us to be polite, to honour one another, to be faithful and sober", as well as instructing us in "the charms of community". It all sounds tediously neat and civilised. This is not quite the gospel of a preacher who was tortured and executed for speaking up for justice, and who warned his comrades that if they followed his example they would meet with the same fate. In De Botton's well-manicured hands, this bloody business becomes a soothing form of spiritual therapy, able to "promote morality (and) engender a spirit of community". It is really a version of the Big Society.
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Like Comte, De Botton believes in the need for a host of "consoling, subtle or just charming rituals" to restore a sense of community in a fractured society.What the book does, in short, is hijack other people's beliefs, empty them of content and redeploy them in the name of moral order, social consensus and aesthetic pleasure. It is an astonishingly impudent enterprise.

But it sounds creepy, nonetheless. (Well, Alain de Botton is reliably an up-nose-getter, no?)

So does this, in Dear Mariella's column, yesterday, A mother who works 60 hours a week wonders if going to church could help her cope with the daily frustrations of life:

[Account of the trials of her life]Do you think church is the answer? I don't believe in God, but all that singing and being grateful has to help, surely?

[Response}
It surely has. Who'd have thought that at this point in the 21st century, in an increasingly secular society, we'd need God's house more than ever? The unfairness of your situation is writ large for all to see so I'll refrain from my customary feminist rant. Where should those in need turn? Facebook? Mumsnet? The songs and solace offered by the church have taken on a compelling new allure.
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Embracing religion is one of the few guaranteed ways of joining a real- life community, carving out a blame-free 90 minutes a week for yourself against the backdrop of Mass, and experiencing a cathartic blast of exuberance during hymn singing.

Okay, the idea that churchgoing provides social stability and a sense of community is probably slightly higher up the moral ladder than attending carefully and visibly to get your offspring into the right school.

But doing it for those reasons strikes as about as morally and intellectually valid as becoming an atheist in order to skip church on Sunday mornings and sleep in instead, or, in the harder-line versions of What Ayfeyism Meanz, become an incestuous cannibal because then one will have no restraints on one's conduct.

Furthermore, if you're going to participate in some community, might it not be worth doing a little comparison shopping? I am so not impressed by the subtext of 'local C of E parish church' as a default setting. There are other forms of Christianity, not to mention other spiritual paths that also make rather a thing of community.

As someone who got the rather predictable INTJ on that Jung personality test that has been doing the rounds again, I do see that I am not a target audience segment for an appeal to a sense of community in the company of people whose beliefs one does not even subscribe to, and perhaps for some people this does work? Who knows, it might even be a road to actual belief.

And I do not even want to go anywhere near the civilised values/social stability argument, because I start getting earwormed by Mrs Cecil Frances Alexander:

The rich man in his castle
The poor man at the gate
He made them high or lowly
And ordered their estate

Paging William, high on I know not what (isn't laudanum meant to soothe?):

If He had been Antichrist, Creeping Jesus,
He’d have done anything to please us;
Gone sneaking into synagogues,
And not us’d the Elders and Priests like dogs;
But humble as a lamb or ass
Obey’d Himself to Caiaphas.
I'll be sitting here all alone in a corner, cuddling my Honest Doubt.

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Thinking about the Rebecca Watson, atheists, and misogyny thing, I was thinking that, just possibly, the guy who pursued her into the lift and wanted to continue the conversation over coffee in his room was one of those clueless people who do not realise that for everybody else the conversation is over, it's 4 a.m. and time to hit the hay, alone, when he wants to go on talking. This may well be doing him too much justice. And it's still creepy.

But this made me go off on a tangent that came to mind a while ago during some other kerfuffle.

I don't claim wild originality for this, because I'm sure I've seen it suggested before:

The use of safewords in ordinary social intercourse.

I could foresee different circumstances in which it might be used:
'This subject is too personally fraught for me to feel comfortable talking about it'
'I don't think this is an appropriate topic for this particular context'
'I think we've pretty much exhausted that topic of conversation'/'Bored now'
and many others.

However, I'm not persuaded that it would actually work, alas.

There would always be people who ignored it or thought they were not meant in its invocation.

There would be people who thought other people were being over-sensitive or cutting off the debate.

There would be people who rules-wrangled as to what they could talk about.

Etc, etc, etc.

And that's before getting into non-verbal behaviours.

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I think the charges of militancy and fundamentalism of course come from our opponents, the theists. My rejoinder is to say when the boot was on their foot they burned us at the stake. All we're doing is speaking very frankly and bluntly and they don't like it.

This seems to me to fit rather neatly with reports of the wails of 'straight male gamers' apropos the inclusion of non-hetero possibilities in RPGs.

But, even so, could wish that the public face of atheism was not quite so heavily focussed on privileged white men of a certain age and class - in this instance, A C Grayling. It may, of course, be that they are the ones who gain credence and bring gravitas to the matter (wot? shurly not...)

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Good thing: someone has preordered the Biography!
Bad thing: revealing that Amazon has got the wrong classification code in its database and is listing it as something that it is not.
Sigh. Publishers on this, however.

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Amusing typo spotted today:
Beyond the Ballet: Culture, Politics, and American Elections
Or, possibly, looking at the CFP, I just wonder if they're trying to be really a bit too clever-clever there: because I think most people are going to look at it and go 'Er, that is not how you spell "ballot"', rather than go 'Yay witty!'

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Musing today on the extent to which it is possible to undertake to 'fight all the oppressions' and the extent to which people should not be condemned for sticking to a last and getting somewhere with it in a way that wouldn't happen if they dissipated their energies too broadly.

Though ideally, with mindfulness that theirs is not the only struggle and there are others.

This is, I concede, a different thing from someone being egregiously and gratuituously awful.

And I'm not sure that it's entirely the same thing as someone not going as far as they might along one path because they can see that holding back on that will let them go further, at that particular juncture, on another. (cf Edith How Martyn writing to Margaret Sanger just after the advent of the Republic in Spain that it was probably advisable for Spanish women to concentrate on female suffrage before beginning the birth control fight.)

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Is there any way, in Thunderbird, to get messages that need action on some particular date to pop up again?

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My honest doubt also has a sounder basis of knowingz besides the whole more faith in thing going for it: Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says - though not, of course, in this particular company.

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This is a news website article about a scientific paper (via [personal profile] movingfinger). Mutatis mutandis, also applies to articles about historical papers, no? (Have just been reading over an article by a friend and colleague about media 'history' Mi justifiable scare quotes, I show u them.)

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Dec. 6th, 2009 05:19 pm
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Search fails at finding the piece in The Observer Review anent this: Nine Lessons and Carols for Godless People, which is happening at the Bloomsbury Theatre (which is, of course, within the Student Union building of the godless institution in Gower St). This aroused in me the question of whether there would be any George Eliot, in particular 'O May I Join The Choir Invisible' and whether there are musical settings of same (there is at least one, by someone who also composed an -?unproduced - opera version of Silas Marner).

Haven't I seen Tim Adams going WOEZ about evil computerz and teh intanetz and their malign effects on creativity, sociability, etc, before? Someone who spends most of their time hanging out in Comment is Free is bound to get a v distorted picture of what is going on.

I am perhaps a little more persuaded by Rachel Cooke in Jeremiah mood about public libraries. Which does seem to imply that yet again the debate is shooting right past the actual core constituency (or what would be, if so much wasn't wrong with them).

A lengthy piece on 'mash-up' novels, e.g. Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - and are there any of these which are not based on something by J Austen (and we haven't, have we? yet seen Emma and the Evil Undead?). In which case, is it not simply about brand recognition but the contrast element? (The Brontes already having teh gothique up the wazoo.) Without ever having read any of them, the whole idea does strike me, as it does the author of this article, that the joke quickly grows old - and would perhaps be better as shorter jeux d'esprit than whole novels.

Biography of the apparently somewhat elusive Dorothea Lange (which after all is plausible for someone whose stance appears to have been 'I am a camera').

Dorothea Lange's most famous photograph is also... one of America's most famous photographs. It is her portrait of Florence Owens Thompson, a migrant worker who, like countless others, had journeyed west from Oklahoma to California during the Great Depression. For a long time, it was known simply as Migrant Mother and, like many of Lange's images from the 1930s, it is stark and beautiful. It is also problematic, because of its contested context and the issues it raises about the morality of documentary photography.
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In 1958, Thompson made herself, and her frustration with Lange, known though a powerfully inarticulate letter to a photography magazine in which she demanded that her portrait no longer be used without her permission. By then, of course, it was too late. The photograph had long since floated free of its subject, and of its creator, becoming a symbol of something greater than either of them could have imagined.
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Gordon rebuts Thompson's claim that Lange had told her the image would not be published. Her case for the defence is a strong one: FSA photographers knew that their images would be widely disseminated for the common good so it is unlikely that Lange would have said otherwise. Likewise, Thompson's long anonymity was decided not by Lange but by the project's guidelines that instructed photographers contracted to the FSA not to record the names of their subjects.

Nevertheless, one's sympathies lie with Florence Owens Thompson who, it transpires, was not a white American but a Cherokee. She had lived on the margins of American society while Lange's portrait of her was reproduced around the globe, becoming an icon of American suffering and stoicism. "Its reputation grew," writes Gordon, "because it symbolised white motherhood and white dustbowl refugees… Would the photograph have had such popularity if viewers had known its subject was a woman of colour?" The ironies that attend this single image, then, echo the contradictions that attend America's collective – and revisionist – notion of nationhood.

Why readers crave the risk factor. From Hemingway to war heroes, there's a romance in writers who put themselves in their own story. And there's a danger in it too. While I am entirely there with Mr McCrum's suggestion that 'It does no favours to the powers of the imagination to perpetuate the romantic myth of authorship, however much unconsciously we subscribe to it', I feel he undercuts his own argument when he writes dismissively that 'The worst of the literary scene today is that so many of its protagonists, far from waving a standard for the darker side of human experience, resemble nothing so much as dentists, accountants and public-relations executives'. Given that Alaa el-Aswany, author of the internationally critically-acclaimed The Yacoubian Building was, and maybe still is, a dentist, and that it is conceivable that even a public-relations executive might write a good novel, this seems the kind of banal assumption he intends to subvert.

Euan Ferguson, WHUT??, Kingsley Amis was a 'splendidly humane old chuffpot' and women were one of the areas of life 'to which he brought grand amateur enthusiasm'. I find it hard to read those as simply coded ways of expressing 'curmudgeonly and misogynistic misanthrope alcoholic'.

To its supporters, the beaver is a keystone species. To others, it's a rodent with a huge appetite for deforestation. As these "charismatic beasties" are released into their new Scottish home, many are predicting trouble in the Highlands.

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Ben Goldacre on woowoo in Parliament. How much do I love Evan Harris?

"The honourable member for Braintree cited evidence from the Sun, so I want to refer to a recent edition of the British Medical Journal"

Awwww, bless.

Marina Hyde, While Hubbard's cult gets ever more exposed, it's a shame other religions are not forced to justify their own doctrinal lunacies.

Yay for object of one of my major fangirly crushes: Face to faith: We should all celebrate the 150th anniversary of John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. Also, yay for Face to Faith including a humanist.

And one last line still up for identification in the Last Lines quiz yesterday. I'm pretty sure that it's something that people apart from me have read. ETA Now identified.

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